Bes spends his time cruising the streets of Berkeley for squirrels and reason. He also enjoys analyzing appreciation techniques and spreading the concept of reader appreciation further. He also tweets heavily on twitter. View the author's website.
 

Gravatar: Reader appreciation after a site is sold

Today I would like to ask you a simple question: what happens to reader appreciation when you a sell a site that has readers? Does the old site owner have any obligation to those readers? Does the new site owner have any obligation to those readers? Should the readers themselves expect anything from such a sale? Should the readers expect anything to change or remain the same during and after the sale?

To help you come up with some answers, let me tell you a story that happened not long ago: this is the a partial story of Gravatar.

Example: The 6 Gravatar volunteers, and the Gravatar Sale

I found out recently that Gravatar had been sold to Automattic, the company behind WordPress. On some levels it was kind of a good news for me, as that would probably mean that Gravatar would be developed further and would be around. On one level, it made me wonder as to what will happen to the people who helped run Gravatar in the beginning. Surprisingly, or maybe not surprisingly, none of the people who helped run Gravatar before besides the owner, Tom, were mentioned or thanked.

There were 6 people who helped run Gravatar at one point when Tom was not around. These 6 people were the only people running and rating every image on Gravatar for a long time, specially in times when the original owner was not around. I was one of those 6 original people, and this post is a part of my thoughts about this situation. We spent around 8-12 hours every day running the image approval system and managing the forums. I sent an e-mail to Tom recently about the sale, and the e-mail bounced back; I’m guessing his Gravatar e-mail does not work anymore. I think I cannot ask Matt about this as Matt can rightfully say “Who the heck are you? You are not part of this deal.” Matt would not be wrong at all in saying that in this situation. That makes me think more about whether the entire responsibility lies on Tom’s shoulders, if there is any responsibility at all.

Does reader appreciation persist after the Gravatar sale?

When I think about the sale, it makes me wonder about whether or not any appreciation should exist for the volunteers, and whether or not the person selling the site is responsible for it. For example, it is as if I volunteered with the Red Cross; I volunteer a lot and do all the work, and when the paid staff comes to take over the project after the storm has died, I am not remembered until another storm is on its way. Tom has thanked us in the past. The original Gravatar blog however has been deleted, and the new blog by Matt Automattic does not mention us at all.

I think it is not the responsibility of Automattic or Matt to keep in mind the volunteers who may have run the project for free for Tom. That is the responsibility of Tom. Tom himself, however, has indeed thanked us once and gave us Pro subscription to Gravatar for whenever the Pro version came out, so another question rises as to whether or not appreciation stops at some point.

Original mention of the 6 volunteers deleted completely from annals of history

It would have been nice if the people who ran the site completely, for when Tom was not around for person reasons, and the people who kept sanity around all Gravatar used in the world, were mentioned and not completely erased off the charts. No more mention, no more thanks, no more names; on top of that, all the previous mention and connections have been deleted, as the original Gravatar blog has been deleted.

The Lucky/Unlucky 6 - Thank you!

For some of history to at least stay alive, let me list the other volunteers who at one time ran the entire Gravatar rating system and the Gravatar forums for when Tom was not around and for when the blogosphere would have come to a screeching halt had the 6 of us not kept the things in balance [ok, may that is an over-dramatization, but it paints a good picture to make things more clear, no?]:

  1. http://blog.maltese.net - “Chris :: wired”
  2. http://spoken-for.org
  3. http://www.thereasoner.com [me]
  4. http://www.lookanothersite.com
  5. http://desinformados.net/blog - Álvaro Castaño
  6. http://www.geeklimit.com/

[quoted from the original Gravatar feed where Tom thanked us openly in April of 2006, which is still available]. Thank you my fellow bloggers for helping run Gravatar in the past. :) I would have had monsters in my nightmares have unapproved Gravatar over their heads, were it not for the 5 of you to help also and rate images, helping keep the entire bulk of the load away from me.

What do you think?

Gravatar is a good example of a situation where one can ponder about the issue of whether or not reader appreciation exists or stops after a site sale. I think it should exist forever. At least that is what I think; maybe the other 6 original volunteers have a different view on this. Tom does not owe us anything, unless you subscribe to the view that appreciation is owed to readers or helpers. Similarly, Matt and Automattic do not owe anything to the 6 people, as they probably do not even know the 6 exist.

What do you think? Do you think readers or people who help run the site should be part of a site forever? Should volunteers expect anything when they are helping?

At least I can be proud to say I’m one of the only 7 people in history who spent almost every day for a long time rating and labeling every image submitted by thousands of Gravatar users. I am still using Gravatar; I have not changed my original Gravatar image for about 2 or 3 years now [I cannot remember exactly], and Gravatar has worked very well for me. I probably approved your Gravatar image too during that time. ;)

Thank you Tom, Matt & the Automattic Team

Regardless of this situation so far, I am and will continue using Gravatar as it is a very nice service. Thanks Tom for having us onboard in the past; it was actually an honor for all of us, or most of us including myself. Thank you Matt and Automattic for buying the service, as now the service can continue and hopefully we will see some better integration with WordPress.

Thank you for reading everyone. :)

 

Read the Discussion (11 Responses)

  • Chris says...

    http://blog.maltese.net

    Hey Bes,

    Thanks for the kind words of acknowledgment!

    Regards,
    Chris

  • Bes says...

    http://thereasoner.com

    Hi Chris,

    Really good to hear from you, and you deserve the praise! I remember hours and hours spent some weeks, with hundreds and hundreds of avatars waiting to become Gravatars, and then me taking a break thinking “Siiigh, have to take a break for 10 minutes and come back to it“, only to come back and find the unapproved list slashed down to a dozen or so, or even completely gone. :)

    Thanks for coming and commenting, I really appreciate it too. Do you think the acknowledgment should be attached, or at least not deleted?

    Thanks again. :)

  • Chris says...

    http://blog.maltese.net

    Hello Bes,

    I too remember the countless approvals made to the Gravatar site, only to return and find a ton more to review :)

    I think that what we did was purely voluntary in the spirit of “the old Internet”, when people helped each other expecting nothing in return. The acknowledgment would be nice, but remember, once a corporate entity enters something that was once “grassroots”, all bets for anything in return are off.

    Regards,
    Chris

  • bLuefRogX says...

    http://blog.bluefrogx.com

    Great post, Those unpaid volunteers should have their names mentioned if only for the sweat and blood involved in setting the whole thing up.

  • Matt says...

    http://photomatt.net/

    Hey, Matt from Automattic here. The blog that’s on the site is what we got, any posts before the first one on the blog we didn’t get copies of. I also didn’t know about the volunteers, maybe because it didn’t apply in the new version of Gravatar. I’m sorry that you didn’t get recognition, it wasn’t a deliberate thing on our part.

    As a thank you if you email me your address and hoodie size we could send you out some WordPress gear, if you’re interested.

  • Ronald Huereca says...

    http://www.ronalfy.com

    Wow Matt, that’s very generous of you if you don’t mind me saying. Automattic definitely doesn’t “have to” compensate the original Gravatar volunteers, but your willingness to recognize them is commendable.

    Bes, I’m curious what you think.

  • Chris says...

    http://blog.maltese.net

    Very nice gesture, Matt.

    BTW… Is this a Gravatar-enabled site? Mine never displays.

    Chris

  • Ronald Huereca says...

    http://www.ronalfy.com

    Hey Chris,

    I disabled caching on the Gravatar plugin here. It’ll slow certain pages down, but that’s an acceptable compromise. Your Gravatar looks like it’s showing now.

  • Matt says...

    http://photomatt.net/

    We just imported the blog posts from the feed you linked into blog.gravatar.com, so there’s now some more context and a permanent record of what was on the blog before we got it.

  • Bes says...

    http://thereasoner.com

    Hi Chris, thanks again for the comment. You bring up an interesting point regarding “the old Internet“, and the changing environment the internet is going through now. :) Really nice observation!

    Hi bLuefRogX, thanks for coming and for the comment. It would be nice, though I was also wondering why things were deleted. [more on it below :P]. Thanks for your voice on this too, makes me realize I was not thinking something completely illogical.

    Hi again Matt, thanks for coming, commenting and for participating in this to to let me know what you think. You do not need to apologize at all, since you were not aware of it. I really appreciate your comment and that you think my opinion had any substance. Thank you so very much also for looking into it and for importing the feeds. :)

    Hi Ronald, thanks for the comment too. Your point about Automattic not having to have to compensate at least me is something I agree with, though I wonder what the other volunteers think and I will let them decide on their own. It is very nice to see someone who helped me invisibly back then to keep the load low, to hear from you and bLuefRogX to get an outside opinion that can be more balanced in some ways, and to also hear from Matt to realize that he also hopefully thinks that it is important to remember some things.

    Also, heh, I think I would look really selfish in getting the gear from Matt since I am already a bit happy that me and the others are being acknowledged again. Matt, would it please be all right if I contacted the other volunteers directly and see whether or not they need some gear, and then shoot you an e-mail directly with the names and addresses of the people who wanted some gear?

    Thanks again! This was really nice and a bit unexpected, everyone. I really believe that what Chris said is happening, that “the old internet” is slowly fading away and mentalities are changing. I think Matt has shared his stance on this and helped keep at least one of the older mentalities to not forget some things and that they may be relevant.

  • Adam says...

    http://www.talkphp.com/script-giveaway/1905-gravatar-wrapper-class.html

    I’ve actually created a Gravatar class if you click the link in my name. Loosely coupled and works like a dream - it also has a cache with an expiration date for the avatar - to save on loading times. It can merely load the avatar in locally.

    Adam @ TalkPHP.com

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